seriously though.. satriani has taught a bunch of great musicians, that means that he is also a great musician, and Im talking about theoretical knowledge.

if he’s that well informed, I guess he knows what he’s talking about and why he wouldn’t feel “threatened” by those other songs you guys say he ripped off himself, or do you think he didnt transpose the keys, measured the beats and stuff?

and again, I’m a composer myself, and if I saw someone getting nominated for a grammy with a song apparently copied from one of mine, I’d get pissed too.

How can you sue for ownership rights when it appears that you have done exactly what you are accusing of the defendant? How obtuse is Satriani? I’m sure that he would like to settle. When the details are revealed before any even mildly reasonable judge the case should be dismissed on summary judgement. FYI, Joy Division had become New Order when they released “Bizarre Love Triangle”.

And where’s the lawsuit from Joy Division against Coldplay for lifting their song Bizarre Love Triangle?!

All things considered, I think Coldplay have taken Satriani’s melody, probably without meaning to (I mean, what original artist wants to be known as someone who steals from someone else?). But having said that, Satriani really shouldn’t throw stones when he’s clearly living in a glass house – witness the unashamed rip-off of several of Jeff Beck’s guitar licks in the outro solo of his (Satriani’s) track!

It isn’t just that three-note phrase. The chord progression is almost exactly the same. Theory actually doesn’t recognize much of a difference, since I believe the third chords in each progression are different but are considered alternates. If you break down both chords, there is a single note difference, disregarding intonations.

The rhythm is also almost exactly the same. It’s so close, the difference is unrecognizable over short periods of time. I believe it’s only two bpm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGGFJLpbu4

That guy does a fairly good job of breaking it down.

a musician there’s so much I hate about this – Coldplay, Joe Satriani, law suits, copyright for a short order of notes – that it just makes me wish even harder that all parties didn’t exist in the first place. It’s worse than that story a few years ago of Metallica trying to sue a Canadian band for using the F5 to E5 power chord progression. At least in that case the music styles were similar, the only real comparison with this is that they’re both incredibly shit (sorry for the language).

story to focus on: why/how are The Cool Kids claiming the Teenage Cool Kids have infringed on their name?

Musicians have found a new source of revenue now that they can’t make money from selling records…suing other artists!

If this business of suing over similar, even full out plagiarised melodies is allowed to continue than virtually every musician known to man is gonna owe the descendents of Johann Pachelbel a whole lot of money.

Nothing systematic. Some were common knowledge, others were uncommon knowledge.

Okay, I’m going to try again, assuming there’s something systematic about your methods… How did you, wnu, find these similar tunes? Is this a secret you can reveal?