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	<title>Comments on: Daria Believes in Equal Marriage; Harold and Kumar Believe in Weed.</title>
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		<title>By: WriterX</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The breezeway at UM reminds me of the tweets I see on Twitter:  It&#039;s like a whole lot of people talking in a single room but no one really listening.  I can certainly relate to your post office experience.</description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The breezeway at UM reminds me of the tweets I see on Twitter:  It&#8217;s like a whole lot of people talking in a single room but no one really listening.  I can certainly relate to your post office experience.</p>
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		<title>By: mrjellyfish</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is some Chicago connection to H&amp;K, no? One of the dudes is an alum?

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It can be surprisingly hard and costly to marry. In Minnesota, it takes a five day waiting period, $120 (or less money and 12 hours of pre-marital counseling), and the services of a judge (or an ordained member of an established religion) -- and unless a judge owes you a favor, those are services you&#039;ll be paying for.

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In Maine it takes $30, a notary&#039;s endorsement (or that of a Maine lawyer or a religious official), and the cooperation of the town clerk (whose services are compensated by the town and not the newlyweds).

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In Guyana, the cheapest way is to have the bans published at the church each week for three weeks, to give ample time for objections to be registered.

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Someone asked me if we&#039;d had the blood tests yet. The blood tests? Yeah, to make sure you aren&#039;t cousins... my parents had to do it. Odd; when your parents were married, they couldn&#039;t reliably determine consanguinity from a blood test. Upon investigation, the blood tests were mostly for syphilis. And only a few states and DC still require them.

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Perhaps the easiest, cheapest and longest way to get married is through common law, in 11 states and DC. By living together and behaving as man and wife for a time, and publicly representing yourselves as married, you gain the rights and duties of the betrothed, which hold fast in other states.

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I would be careful getting married even with a candy ring in a fake ceremony -- those are words of action (c.f. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;d=649296&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;How to do things with words&#039;&lt;/a&gt;, J. L. Austin, great book). For some they are words of entreaty to, or covenant with, the Almighty, but they carry distinct legal force in the world of men. 

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Fake marriage in support of equal marriage? Is that more or less effective a protest than no marriage in support of equal marriage? (c.f. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2007/02/even_though_she.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sarah Silverman&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I know what you feel with that letter and the gaping maw of the bin: the casual, almost jaunty approach, then a catch, a few seconds of hesitation and the flash of deep panic after the release. Tomorrow I&#039;ll be dropping off a stack of envelopes and I&#039;m going to put them right in the postman&#039;s paper-chapped paws.</description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">There is some Chicago connection to H&amp;K, no? One of the dudes is an alum?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It can be surprisingly hard and costly to marry. In Minnesota, it takes a five day waiting period, $120 (or less money and 12 hours of pre-marital counseling), and the services of a judge (or an ordained member of an established religion) &#8212; and unless a judge owes you a favor, those are services you&#8217;ll be paying for.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In Maine it takes $30, a notary&#8217;s endorsement (or that of a Maine lawyer or a religious official), and the cooperation of the town clerk (whose services are compensated by the town and not the newlyweds).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In Guyana, the cheapest way is to have the bans published at the church each week for three weeks, to give ample time for objections to be registered.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Someone asked me if we&#8217;d had the blood tests yet. The blood tests? Yeah, to make sure you aren&#8217;t cousins&#8230; my parents had to do it. Odd; when your parents were married, they couldn&#8217;t reliably determine consanguinity from a blood test. Upon investigation, the blood tests were mostly for syphilis. And only a few states and DC still require them.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Perhaps the easiest, cheapest and longest way to get married is through common law, in 11 states and DC. By living together and behaving as man and wife for a time, and publicly representing yourselves as married, you gain the rights and duties of the betrothed, which hold fast in other states.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I would be careful getting married even with a candy ring in a fake ceremony &#8212; those are words of action (c.f. <a href="http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;d=649296" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&#8216;How to do things with words&#8217;</a>, J. L. Austin, great book). For some they are words of entreaty to, or covenant with, the Almighty, but they carry distinct legal force in the world of men. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Fake marriage in support of equal marriage? Is that more or less effective a protest than no marriage in support of equal marriage? (c.f. <a href="http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2007/02/even_though_she.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sarah Silverman</a>)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I know what you feel with that letter and the gaping maw of the bin: the casual, almost jaunty approach, then a catch, a few seconds of hesitation and the flash of deep panic after the release. Tomorrow I&#8217;ll be dropping off a stack of envelopes and I&#8217;m going to put them right in the postman&#8217;s paper-chapped paws.</p>
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